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Selecting & Positioning Fernco's Wax Free Toilet SealJul 15, 2010
By ggp Having installed one toilet with a Fluidmaster No-Seep #3 Wax Toilet Bowl Gasket and another with a Fernco FTS-4 Wax Free Toilet Seal (Fernco #FTS-4 4" Wax Free Toilet Seal), I enthusiastically recommend the Fernco product. Once installed properly, it is sure to be trouble-free for the life of the toilet. I make two recommendations below. The first is about ordering the correct size from Amazon. The second is about proper positioning of the Fernco Wax Free Toilet Seal on a toilet.
As I contemplated ordering a Fernco Wax Free Toilet Seal from Amazon, I found myself in the same quandary as a number of other shoppers. Namely, I wasn't sure whether I would need the FTS-3 model (Fernco #FTS-3 3" Wax Free Toilet Seal) or the FTS-4 model; and I didn't care to remove the old toilet to find out before ordering (thus contending with a toilet-less bathroom and a plug for sewer gas while waiting for the order to arrive from Amazon). I was about to buy both, knowing that one of them would be superfluous, when I found one local hardware store that kept both models in stock. This gave me the flexibility to remove the old toilet, verify that I needed the FTS-4 model, and drive over to the local store. I realized later that I could have judged this without removing the old toilet by going into my basement and measuring the outside circumference of the cast-iron drain pipe (15.1"). Dividing this by pi (3.1416) yields an outside diameter of 4.8", which, according to the table at the link below, shows that my pipe has an inner diameter of 4 inches (more precisely, 3.96")--thus showing that I needed the FTS-4 model.
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Now to my recommendation about how to properly position the Fernco Wax Free Toilet Seal on a toilet. The gooey, tacky adhesive clings very well to the underside of a new toilet, so long as the underside is clean, dry, oil-free, and wax-free. Consequently, it is very important to get the placement exactly right when first touching the seal to the toilet. Alas, I didn't get it correct on my first try. I misguidedly centered the circle of the Fernco seal over the circular hole that exits the underside of the toilet. In effect, I sought to create concentric circles; on my toilet, that was a mistake. I shouldn't have used the center of the toilet's drain hole as my guide. Instead, I should have centered the Fernco seal between the toilet's bolt holes so that the seal would be centered midway on the imaginary line that runs between the two bolts that anchor the toilet to the floor. The anchor bolts (also called closet bolts) protrude from the toilet flange in the floor with which the Fernco seal needs to align, and the imaginary line that runs between the anchor bolts passes through the center of the drain pipe. By centering the Fernco seal between the toilet's bolt holes, one assures alignment with the center of the drain pipe (and thereby proper mating of the two).
5 of 5 found the following review helpful:
If adhesion doesn't stick, bring the heat!Oct 28, 2010
By Ellie I had a problem with the adhesion - I cleaned the toilet horn and surroundings THOROUGHLY, using some rubbing alcohol to get rid of the wax, dried it off with papertowels really well, then plopped the Fernco on. It held for a few moments, then I could see one side drooping off. I think the problem was that I didn't let it dry long enough, giving the alcohol a chance to evaporate. SO, quick thinking at 11pm at night and knowing the kids will be trying to pee there in the early morning hours, I got out my heat gun, put it on max, blew over the area where the Fernco was to stick for about a minute (being careful not to overheat any one spot or the whole thing), THEN did a very quick "blow-over" on the adhesive part of the Fernco, and then I quickly stuck it on the toilet. Then I carefully did a few more circles with the heat gun while pushing the Fernco onto the toilet firmly, just blasting the "connection zone" for a few more seconds. I turned off the heat gun and continued pressing the Fernco firmly onto the toilet for about a minute or two. Voila, it was SOLID. I caulked around the Fernco's rim just for good measure, then had hubby help me gently glide the toilet into our submerged flange, and no leaks, it's been a success!! P.S. Whoever noted the straws on top of the flange bolts for easy centering and popping the toilet back down, AWESOME IDEA, THANK YOU! Saved us a lot of back pain and made for much easier placement of the toilet without disturbing the Fernco seal.
5 of 5 found the following review helpful:
wax free toilet sealJan 07, 2010
By Mr Goose Terrific product. Easy and simple to install. Provides excellent seal. If you should ever have to remove a toilet that was installed with this product you will be pleased to discover a very clean toilet flange for the subsequent re-installation (there is no revolting waxy mess that has to be scraped and cleaned up). I will never use a wax seal again.
2 of 2 found the following review helpful:
Oh, Yes, Yes, Yes!!!Aug 05, 2010
By David Giles The floor slopes left to right. The connection flange is 1/2" below the floor surface and some previous plumber tried to build the surface by soldering onto the metal rim. The 4" metal pipe receiver was dented where it hit an external floor joist. No wonder the previous wax ring leaked. But the FTS-4 slipped right in and sealed perfectly. What an absolute joy to eliminate those wax rings! Two more on order.
2 of 2 found the following review helpful:
Easy Toilet InstallOct 01, 2009
By A. Jones Very easy and no mess for a new toilet install. Much nicer than working with a wax ring.
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